I've actually had fairly minimal contact with Kindred so far. One showed up to return a jar of blood as an apology for snacking on someone I knew, and there was an incident with...well, there was skin, it was gross, and I was mostly there to see what clean-up needed to be done. But it's nice to know that I might be able to truly wreck some creepy Italian vampire's day and piss them off real good.

[Is it a good idea to piss off a creepy vampire that practices necromancy? Depends on if you're setting them up for something...]

I think I probably still qualify as juvenile myself, but I'll keep in mind that I should look elsewhere for the really juicy stuff.