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piper902020-08-08 09:10 pm
tarnishedavenger) wrote in piper902020-08-08 09:10 pm
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005: Knife in the Back (Locked to the Adults.)
[Yup. No teenagers allowed in this filter. Mac is only included after a very, very long and intense mental debate. The toys and the Easter Bunny, as odd as they are, are also in on it.]
So, I've been thinking. Jorgmund's doing a... job of getting everyone some sort of physical training, and there's some of us who don't mind getting a little bit of an extra hand. But we're going to be here for longer than I think any one of us anticipated.
One of the things Jorgmund isn't touching on, though, is education for anything that doesn't apply to missions. Some of these kids and, yes, some of the adults, have serious knowledge gaps.
This is going to be an unpopular idea for some of them, but I think they, and we, would benefit from setting up some sort of lesson plan, get some schooling going. Obviously not history or anything tied so closely to our worlds, but universal things like physics, math, computer skills, locksmithing, other things that could serve them later.
Any opinions? I should probably say that I'm not the most experienced when working with and educating young teens, my only experience is a few guest talks and 'field trips' with the kids at the Ravenswood Academy (I don't think Rowan's desire for secrecy there applies when there's no one from my world here) and Generation VIPER.
So, I've been thinking. Jorgmund's doing a... job of getting everyone some sort of physical training, and there's some of us who don't mind getting a little bit of an extra hand. But we're going to be here for longer than I think any one of us anticipated.
One of the things Jorgmund isn't touching on, though, is education for anything that doesn't apply to missions. Some of these kids and, yes, some of the adults, have serious knowledge gaps.
This is going to be an unpopular idea for some of them, but I think they, and we, would benefit from setting up some sort of lesson plan, get some schooling going. Obviously not history or anything tied so closely to our worlds, but universal things like physics, math, computer skills, locksmithing, other things that could serve them later.
Any opinions? I should probably say that I'm not the most experienced when working with and educating young teens, my only experience is a few guest talks and 'field trips' with the kids at the Ravenswood Academy (I don't think Rowan's desire for secrecy there applies when there's no one from my world here) and Generation VIPER.
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it's bad enough to be stuck here, i didn't sign up to babysit, too.
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Teach a kid to fish.
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And no. That’s not my way of getting you to do the lifting for me. You look like you weigh a hundred pounds soaking wet.
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people don't want your help for a reason. don't act like you somehow know what's best for them if they tell you to fuck off.
people like you make me sick
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I’m not talking about forcing them to eat their broccoli - I’m talking about helping people. And yes, sometimes they don’t want the help, but I still try. If I see someone about to be attacked by a gang of homicidal nuns, I kind of don’t care if they don’t want my help, because I don’t want them to die. How does doing the right thing make you sick?
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you act like some kind of hero but it's all about making yourself feel good.
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It can be both. I’m not going to lie - saving someone’s life feels great. It feels great because they’re alive. It’s not because I think I’m awesome. I’m not awesome. Take volunteer work - people enjoy it. That doesn’t mean that volunteers aren’t doing something nice. You don’t have to live your life in misery and torment for your good deeds to “count.” If that were true, there’d be no such thing as a good person.
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maybe there are only bad people and people who pretend they aren't.
[ It would be easier that way. ]
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I don’t know about that. If you pretend to be something hard enough - and you’re good at pretending -eventually you kind of become what you’re faking. At least enough to muddy the waters.
[ He shrugs a bit and draws a knee up. ]
Like the volunteer thing. Say you want someone to think you’re a good person, so you start volunteering at a hospital. You hate it, but you put in a decent effort to impress Dallas because you like them. After a year, you get recognized for volunteering over 400 hours that year.
... so, is a tick mark in the Good Person column, because you’re candy striping your heart out, or is another tick in the bad column, because you only did it for Dallas? The way I see it, the flowers got delivered, books got read, pillows fluffed. There’s a net good for the world.
[ He drums his fingers on his knee, before dipping a toe into the pool of more personal experience. ]
Besides... nobody wants to live in a world without good people, where everyone just takes or breaks until they die. I used to think like that, that everything good I did was selfish unless I had nothing. You can’t breathe thinking that way.
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It must be nice to be able to think the world is better than it is.
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It’s not bad. That’s why I do it.
Honestly... I cheat sometimes. If you expect the absolute worst and only want people be baseline decent, then it knocks you out when they’re actually nice. You could start there.
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[ She scowls, her eyes sliding off the camera. ]
Sometimes you try and all you end up with is ashes.
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Oh, come off it. I don’t know who the princesses are, I’m not naive. Doing your best is all you can do, but it doesn’t mean everything doesn’t go to shit. It just makes it worse when it does, because you know how hard you worked.
[ Even though he has an opposing viewpoint, not even the “come off it” is said harshly. Robbie sounds more neutral, almost muted, the longer he speaks. ]
I’ve been there. With the ashes. But I wasn’t dead, so eventually I had to make a choice between if I wanted to live or just... exist. I tried existing, and it was killing me. Living meant engaging, and that’s not easy either. Trying lets me sleep at night, but it doesn’t always work. I tried, and a nutcase from Atlantis hit a city with a tsunami. I’m not doing it for a trophy. I just want to breathe without feeling like my chest is in a vise.
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[ Catra snaps the word, her eyes narrowing into a glare. She doesn't want advice. She doesn't want to be told this crap. ]
I'm still not for babysitting a bunch of kids. Or making them learn for their own good or whatever. It's not our business.