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Stacia, Nothing-to-See-Here ([personal profile] credit_not_blame) wrote in [community profile] piper902021-05-21 10:49 am

[bendy-timed] Let's Get It All Out [locked to New Hires except Price, Mac, and Jack Spicer]

[Not too long after some of the New Hires come back from this mess of a mission, a locked down video post appears on the secret network from everyone's favorite still-underaged-shhhh werewolf. She looks perky, in the slightly manic manner of someone gearing up for a fight.]


Since everyone got so excited about my question regarding what we were going to do with the Jorgmund scientists on the last mission, promptly turning it into a seething argument on whether or not killing is ever acceptable, I've decided to bring it up here on the Rig. Because apparently we need to have this conversation now or else we're going to have it at a completely inappropriate time and place; like on a mission where we're trying to plan out how to escape a prison that mind-fucks us.

[Because really, people? Really? Stacia clears her throat and schools her expression back into a smile.]

I'm going to need everyone to shitpost like crazy on the public side of things, because I can't be in charge of that and in charge of moderating this, the hottest of topics.

Speaking of, guess what. I'm in charge of moderating this conversation because Lonestar likes me best. Or because I volunteered; six of one, half dozen of the other. That means that I can freeze your threads and put you in time out if you break the rules.



1) Don't be an asshole. This is my favorite rule, and I am become Asshole Arbiter. Keep a civil tongue in your head and/or civil fingers on your keyboard. I recognize that this is a topic that is very contentious and very important to a lot of people, but we have to be able to work with each other. Allow me to remind you that we have been literally enslaved by a corporation in a reality separate from our own that has implanted internal shock collars inside our bodies. The attitude of your fellow enslaved are not the biggest problem here.

2) Participate in good faith. There are a few people who have not been invited to this conversation because I don't trust them to follow this rule. While I believe that having shit-stirrers around is important, I don't have the energy to wrangle them and all of you right now. If you decide that now is the time to reveal yourself as a shit-stirrer and you just want to piss people off, you will be declared an asshole and in violation of Rule 1.

3) This is a discussion to help determine what we're doing to do moving forward, not a moral debate. Obviously if you feel that killing someone is always wrong, that will inform your argument. That's fine! But if I see anyone going on about how so-and-so is naive idiot for refusing to kill or such-and-such is a monster because they do kill, I'm gonna put you in time out. Even if I agree with you! Because see Rule 1.

4) Feel free to self-moderate! I can't be everywhere at once -- in fact, there's only one of me. If you find yourself in a debate that isn't going anywhere, feel free to excuse yourself. Or even to not respond! You will not actually die if you don't get the last word in! If someone excuses themself from an exchange with you or stops responding to you, do not follow them around to continue harassing them. See again Rule 1.

5) If I freeze your thread or put you in time-out, go shitpost until you've calmed down again. Or read over what you were posting and ask yourself what was happening that I came in and put a stop to it. Or, if you feel that I am a most unfair and power-drunk bitch, you can go and make your own discussion post. Then whether or not you're in violation of Rule 1 is not my problem anymore.
zerg_rush: (15 - 03)

[personal profile] zerg_rush 2021-05-21 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it turns out we have more of those than I thought back home.

[Haha everything in StarCraft is always on fire.]
tr1xx: (canon; civvies but but but)

[personal profile] tr1xx 2021-05-22 12:00 am (UTC)(link)

That's kinda the thing, really, isn't it? Lot of us have come here from places where killin' is usually the only option, more often than we'd maybe like.

[ She shrugs. ]

I think the point some of us on the 'maybe we don't jump right to murder' side of the mess from before were tryna make is it isn't the only option here. Not all the time, anyhow. Cannae speak for everyone, 'course, but for me, at least, that's where 'm comin' from.

Edited 2021-05-22 00:00 (UTC)
zerg_rush: (15 - 08)

[personal profile] zerg_rush 2021-05-22 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think...there's a difference between killing and murder.

[Deep Thoughts with Kerrigan]

I've killed to protect other people and to save my own life, but I've also done political assassinations, back when I was still with the Confederacy.

[And mind-controlled, but she's not discussing that in public. She's remarkably unfazed by admitting to it, but Kerrigan wouldn't know "normal" if it bit her.]

Only that last one counts as murder.
tr1xx: (canon; squinting raised brow)

[personal profile] tr1xx 2021-05-22 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)

Aye, yeah, point there. Definitely a difference. Certainly don't consider the people I've killed whilst fightin' a battle murder, even if it makes me feel like shite to do it anyway.

[ She's not gonna touch the political assassinations thing, even if it made her squint at first. Everyone's got their experiences, yadda yadda. ]

What people were suggestin' back there in the freaky town, though? That was murder, no two ways about it. Those scientists weren't an active threat, probably couldn'ta defended 'emselves against any one of the people sayin' we should off 'em.

Same would apply to similar situations. If someone cannae defend 'emself, isn't an active threat, and could be handled another way... that's not killin' for a good reason, that's just murder.

zerg_rush: (15 - 03)

[personal profile] zerg_rush 2021-05-23 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[Kerrigan snorts.]

Scientists are way more dangerous in the lab than in the field.

[No, she hasn't had a lot of positive life experiences ever, why do you ask?]
tr1xx: (canon; huh pout)

[personal profile] tr1xx 2021-05-29 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)

[ Well that sounds like it's from experience. ]

Also not wrong. But even in the lab a scientist's more dangerous 'cause of their brains an' resources than physical strength and all that shite; bust into a lab an' you're rarely gonna get much resistance, so still no self-defense. Just as easy to drag 'em bodily out and shut down the shit they're doin' as it is to kill 'em at that point.

Unless there's failsafes and shite. Gotta admit I know of a guy—one of the good scientists, not evil fuckers—who kinda kamikazed it when people broke in.

[ Oh Doc Weller, you well-meaning, but frustrating, bastard. ]

So. Point.