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Stacia, Nothing-to-See-Here ([personal profile] credit_not_blame) wrote in [community profile] piper902021-05-21 10:49 am

[bendy-timed] Let's Get It All Out [locked to New Hires except Price, Mac, and Jack Spicer]

[Not too long after some of the New Hires come back from this mess of a mission, a locked down video post appears on the secret network from everyone's favorite still-underaged-shhhh werewolf. She looks perky, in the slightly manic manner of someone gearing up for a fight.]


Since everyone got so excited about my question regarding what we were going to do with the Jorgmund scientists on the last mission, promptly turning it into a seething argument on whether or not killing is ever acceptable, I've decided to bring it up here on the Rig. Because apparently we need to have this conversation now or else we're going to have it at a completely inappropriate time and place; like on a mission where we're trying to plan out how to escape a prison that mind-fucks us.

[Because really, people? Really? Stacia clears her throat and schools her expression back into a smile.]

I'm going to need everyone to shitpost like crazy on the public side of things, because I can't be in charge of that and in charge of moderating this, the hottest of topics.

Speaking of, guess what. I'm in charge of moderating this conversation because Lonestar likes me best. Or because I volunteered; six of one, half dozen of the other. That means that I can freeze your threads and put you in time out if you break the rules.



1) Don't be an asshole. This is my favorite rule, and I am become Asshole Arbiter. Keep a civil tongue in your head and/or civil fingers on your keyboard. I recognize that this is a topic that is very contentious and very important to a lot of people, but we have to be able to work with each other. Allow me to remind you that we have been literally enslaved by a corporation in a reality separate from our own that has implanted internal shock collars inside our bodies. The attitude of your fellow enslaved are not the biggest problem here.

2) Participate in good faith. There are a few people who have not been invited to this conversation because I don't trust them to follow this rule. While I believe that having shit-stirrers around is important, I don't have the energy to wrangle them and all of you right now. If you decide that now is the time to reveal yourself as a shit-stirrer and you just want to piss people off, you will be declared an asshole and in violation of Rule 1.

3) This is a discussion to help determine what we're doing to do moving forward, not a moral debate. Obviously if you feel that killing someone is always wrong, that will inform your argument. That's fine! But if I see anyone going on about how so-and-so is naive idiot for refusing to kill or such-and-such is a monster because they do kill, I'm gonna put you in time out. Even if I agree with you! Because see Rule 1.

4) Feel free to self-moderate! I can't be everywhere at once -- in fact, there's only one of me. If you find yourself in a debate that isn't going anywhere, feel free to excuse yourself. Or even to not respond! You will not actually die if you don't get the last word in! If someone excuses themself from an exchange with you or stops responding to you, do not follow them around to continue harassing them. See again Rule 1.

5) If I freeze your thread or put you in time-out, go shitpost until you've calmed down again. Or read over what you were posting and ask yourself what was happening that I came in and put a stop to it. Or, if you feel that I am a most unfair and power-drunk bitch, you can go and make your own discussion post. Then whether or not you're in violation of Rule 1 is not my problem anymore.
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[personal profile] wheyoftheadept 2021-05-22 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
[Saturday is using video for this; her usual laissez-faire typing style seems inappropriate.]

I don't have moral objections to killing, exactly. What I do got problems with is who, how, and why. Like in the recent thing - if we'da had time to figure out each scientist's deal an' isolate the bastards from the fellow sufferers - well, I still woulda been against it 'cause tactically an' strategically it wasn't the right time for that kinda strike on Jorgmund. But if it had been, I woulda preferred to exercise some discernment. Not just 'cause everyone was real pissed, which seemed to be where people were coming from. If you're gonna kill, do it fast, do it for a sound tactical an' strategic reason, and do it as little as possible. 'S how my pops taught me.

Not sayin' I'm an angel in that regard, though, or always did right. I've killed with hate and vengeance in my heart, for no reason other than the bastards picked a fight with the wrong bitch that day. I've killed to send a message. On at least one occasion, I've let someone die a bad death 'cause I figured they deserved it. Ain't proud of it, but there it is. The place I grew up in ain't the kind of place where doin' the right thing is easy even if you can figure out what it is.

[Saturday shifts, uncomfortable. This is unnerving, like talking about sex or politics in public]

I guess, lookin' back, the line I don't cross is like - not doin' t'others any worse then they've done or tried t'do t'me. Proportionate response, as much as possible. Not really sure where to go with that, except I'll try to remember what other folks think, and abide by it when I can.
Edited 2021-05-23 00:06 (UTC)